Unravelling the schismatic fraud of mark pivarunas aka CMRI
ALL schisms require that they are based on somekind of illusion or distortion of the Truth, otherwise they would be valid components of the continous Catholic Church..
cmri evolved out of the schismatic
'Old Roman Catholic' schism
that had problems with the vat1 resolutions and decided to split away from the Church at that point..the lesson to be learned is.. schism is worse than remaining in the Church and working toward making the Church better..
sometimes we tend to worry too much about making everything in the Church 'perfect' while maybe we would be better off focusing more on Charity, Hope, and Love..
at any rate, the big lie TLRCC, later to evolve into CMRI by mark pivarunas is the famous declaration that the Pope had privately provided a 'waiver': in the future: no papal madates in order to validify future bishops in the Thuc lineage..THIS IS TOTAL NONSENSE on its face..this violates ancient Church canon law in that ONLY the See of Peter has the keys from Christ and no authority to downgrade that commission or embellish its authority has ever even been considered within the Catholic Church..The FIRST quality of the RCC is unity..Authority from the TOP [Rome]..no secret deals, no gnostic branches..
yet CMRI, on their
'About' page clearly says this is NOT the case..
Then, in July 1986, the Congregation held its first general chapter at Mount St. Michael in Spokane, Washington. During this meeting, CMRI established its Rule and Constitutions, which were approved that same year by Bishop Robert McKenna, O.P., whose episcopal lineage can be traced back to Archbishop Pierre Martin Ngo-dinh-Thuc. (Archbishop Thuc received extraordinary patriarchal powers from Pope Pius XI on March 15, 1938. BY MEANS OF THESE FACULTIES, HE COULD LEGITIMATELY CONSECRATE BISHOPS WITHOUT THE USUAL MANDATE FROM ROME. THESE FACULTIES WERE RENEWED ON DECEMBER 8, 1939, BY POPE PIUS XII AND WERE NEVER RESCINDED.)
this is pure nonsense..
so I contacted cmri headquarters in Omaha and asked them if they would kindly send me the said 'proof' of this statement so that I would know they were telling all of us the truth..
what was sent to me was this pdf file --an image file-- containing NO text what-so-ever, but rather several other image files contained within the original pdf image file.. very odd..
this makes searching for text impossible.. yet there is clearly text there in the images..
First impression that came to me was-- if u have documents from Pope Pius XI like u say why not just hold that up to all and show us the documents u are basing this new branching on..This is the first failure--or deception-- I encountered..So I dug a little deeper.. and u can do the same thing I did to unravel this clever hiding of what really is there..U can work online with pdf files with many tools..the one tool I first used was extractPDF..It disects the original pdf file into its components, whatever those are, so that u can then go further and examine each component with the required tools to do that..
When u extract the various components of the cmri 'proof' pdf, u will see various small artifacts that are basically of no value, but u will see 4 main image files containing text..
the texts appear to be one in english, one in french, and two in either latin or Italian..
please do ur own extractions..U dont need to just 'believe' me..The next step is to go online and use Optical Character Recognition engines to look at each image file and then extract the text from the image..Once u do that for each of the 4 image files containing text, then u have the 'proof' of what cmri is built on..the foundation of this church..the only problem left is 3 of the extracted text files are in foreign languages.. latin, french, whatever..not a problem..Just use an online language translator.. I used the google one..
At this point we can clearly see there is NO DOCUMENT FROM ANY POPE stating what mark pivarunas is saying in his 'About' cmri page..he is a liar..what is there..There is some 3rd party stating that Pope Pius XI is authorising Thuc to establish a SEMINARY NEAR ROME for the secret purpose of training 'candidates' (thats the Pope's wording) for the purpose of salting any future conclave with traditional leaning voices to help encourage a better selection of a future Pope..Read it for urself..This honest effort by Pope Pius XI has been embellished to the point of schism by insisting that what the Pope did was remove the necessity of papal mandates from any candidates the TLRCC or later the cmri produced..A point to be made here is that the Catholic Church, and its course thru history is never, and cannot be determined with 'gnostic' or secret knowledge.. Everything done by Christ in establishing and conducting His Church is open and fully aware to all who would wish to investigate..Christ told them-- I do nothing in secret..This should be a red flag to anyone tempted to buy into the cmri fraud..
Properly jumping thru all the required hoops to disect this clever 'onion layer' fraud, U will end up with these files.. If u want to cheat and not do all the work, here is a zip file containing all extracted files from their 'onion' proof document..
CMRI got sued by the Catholic Church [Spokane Diocese] years ago for falsely advertising as being associated with the local Catholic Diocese..cmri lost in court and ultimately became a 501c3 Historical Preservation Society with its legally stated primary mission: to protect and defend Mount Saint Michael..This is the Jesuit seminary that TLRCC covertly purchased thru a dummy shell corporation called 'Pillar,inc'.. The Spokane Diocese would never have sold the seminary to TLRCC had they known of the scam..Yet their website stmicheal.org declares them as a 'traditional catholic' church..This is typical of the double-minded fraud all the fake catholic 'churches' do..They are not the Roman Catholic Church or any part of the Roman Catholic Church..They are, in fact, competiton..like all protest[ant] churches are..
THE MOUNT SAINT MICHAEL HISTORIC PRESERVATION SOCIETY is a business entity in Spokane, Washington registered with the Secretary of State of Washington State. The Unified Business Identifier (UBI) of the entity is #602231752, the entity type is Wa Nonprofit Corporation and the business category is Regular Corporation. The registered agent of the business is Timothy Drahman. The agent office address is 8500 N St Michaels Rd, Spokane, WA 99217. The officers of the entity include Mark Pivarunas (GOVERNOR), Casimir Puskorius (GOVERNOR), John Netzel (GOVERNOR), Dominic Radecki (GOVERNOR), Agnes Rago (GOVERNOR), Timothy Drahman (GOVERNOR), Vianney Tarnowski (GOVERNOR)..
Here are the 'documents' contained in their 'proof' document, followed by translation in English..The first is merely themselves 'ordaining' more of themselves, the next is Thuc 'nutting-up' , and the last ones are the fakes of an alleged letter by Pope Pius XI..
The Right Reverend Monsignor Peter W. Hillebrand
Ordained Deacon on the 29th June, 1971 by His Eminence, Cardinal Joseph Siri St. Lawrence's Cathedral, Genova, Italy Feast of St. Peter and Paul , Apostles
Ordained Priest on the 13th July, 1984 by His Excellency, Bishop Pierre Louis Salle Chapel of the Community of Our Lady of Mercy, Verneuil-Sur-Avre, France Feast of Saint Anacletus, Pope & Martyr
Consecrated Bishop on the 27th July,1984 by His Excellency, Bishop Pierre Louis Salle Chapel, Blangy-Sur-Ternoise, France Feast of St. Pantaleon, Martyr
Ordained Priest (Sub-conditione) on the 16th July, 1991 by His Excellency, Bishop Moises Carmona Church of the Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary, Fort Worth, Texas, United States of America Feast of the Commemoration of the Blessed Virgin Mary of Mount Carmel
Consecrated Bishop (Sub-conditione) on the 17th July, 1991 by His Excellency, Bishop Moises Carmona Church of the Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary, Fort Worth, Texas, United States of America Feast of St. Alexius, Confessor
DEC ARAT 0
WHAT IS THE APPEARANCE OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IN OUR VIEW? These days? ROME, "PAPA" JOHN PAULUS RULES. SECOND. SURROUNDED BY A GROUP OF CARDINALS AND MANY BISHOPS AND PRELATORUM OUTSIDE Ro-vm, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH APPEARS IN FLORIDA, WITH ITS BISHOP AND PRIESTS, THE NUMBER OF CATHOLICS IS HUGE, DAILY MASS IS READ IN SO MANY CHURCHES, AND ON SUNDAY, THE CHURCHES RECEIVE MANY FAITHFUL TO LISTEN TO THE MASS AND TO THE SACRED COMMUNION AND THE Supper
BUT IN GOD'S VIEWPOINT, WHAT DOES THE CHURCH LOOK LIKE TODAY? DAILY AND SUNDAY MASSES AT WHICH DOES IT PLEASE GOD? By no means: BECAUSE THESE MESSAGES. IT IS THE SAME FOR CATHOLICS AND FOR PROTESTANTS - THE IDEA DOESN'T PLEASE GOD AND IS INVALID, THE ONLY MASS THAT PLEASES GOD IS THE MASS OF SAINT Pius V, WHICH IS CELEBRATED BY A FEW PRIESTS AND BISHOPS, IN WHICH I AM. THEREFORE, AS FAR AS I CAN, I WILL OPEN A SEMINARY FOR CANDIDATES FOR THE PRIESTHOOD THAT WILL PLEASE GOD. BESIDES THAT "MASS" GOD DOES NOT P _ACCENT, THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT GOD REJECTS, FOR EXAMPLE GRACE: IN THE ORDINATION OF THE PRIESTS. IN THE ASSEMBLY OF BISHOPS, IN THE SACRAMENT OF CONFIRMATION AND EXTREME UNC-TION.
BEYOND THESE "PRIESTS" WORSHIP: 1) MODERNISM, 2) FALSE ECUMENISM, 3) WORSHIP OF MAN, 4) FREEDOM TO EMBRACE ANY RELIGION; 5) THEY DON'T WANT TO CONDEMN THE HERESIES, AND EXPELL THE HERETICS, THEREFORE, WHILE THE BISHOP OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH, I JUDGE HIMSELF THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH OF ROME IS VACANCY, AND IT IS NECESSARY FOR ME, AS A BISHOP, TO DO EVERYTHING SO THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH OF ROME WILL CONTINUE FOR THE ETERNAL SALVATION OF SOULS.
MONACHI, FEBRUARY 25, 1982
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On March 15, 1938, Pope Pius XI honored Monsignor Martin Ngo Dinh Thuc with particular confidence in a delegation of powers, a photocopy of which we reproduce below. The two cases are analogous. Through this acre of the Holy See, the two bishops receive pontifical powers, those of the Patriarchs. The details of these powers are made explicit by Pius XI himself, as reported by Father Lesourd in the following terms
"Orally, the Holy Father first detailed all the powers he gave, including choosing priests to be consecrated and conferring on them the Pepiscopate without their needing papal bulls, nor therefore giving their signatures committing them to s comply with it under the faith of the oath. "Then, after discussing at length Marne orally all the truly extraordinary powers, the pope thus summed up very solemnly
— In a word, We grant you all the pontifical powers of the pope himself, which are not incommunicable by divine right.
Monsignor Ngo Dinh Thuc therefore had the same powers. They have never been reported to our knowledge. And this great prince of the Church stagnated for years in a 15m2 hovel, where he owed his bread and bread to the charity of a few unbelievers who took him in affection and pity. All his money had been distributed to people poorer than him: the refugees from Vietnam abandoned by France. Helpless, abandoned by everyone, he was kidnapped and confined in America by the modernist Church, and died at the hands of those who claim to have wrested his allegiance from him at Vatican 11... but we are not obliged to tell them. believe !
In any case, we now have the proof. He held from an authentic Pope the full powers of Patriarch. It was cut off from Rome by the conciliar jungle, fiercer in its form than was that of Vietnam in its own. Here is what brings an important element concerning the legality of the consecrations that he conferred. This material evidence is an important part of the file.
S.L.B.
This apparently is the original fake document, lifted from a book written by
Fr. Paul Lesourd [a French jew]
around 1929..U can just see the text on the back pages bleeding thru..
Then someone decided to add some more text to the bottom and invert the color to hide the text bleeding thru..making this a MUCH IMPROVED FAKE..!! CMRI Rocks..!!!![was that U, pivy-boy..??]
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There is no such document in the Vatican archives..
The technical term for that is: FRAUD
Here is wisdom: If any pope had actually provided Thuc with some kind of exclusion from papal mandates, Thuc would surely have presented that letter back to Rome [Thuc's 'get out of jail free' card] when Thuc was being charged with excomm..however, nothing of the sort ever happened..HELLO..knock..knock..HELLO..